Saturday, September 24, 2005

Press Conference Advisory - Ocean Beach Police Brutality

DATE: Tuesday, September 20, 2005

TIME: 11:00 A.M.
WEBSITE: http://www.oceanbeachpoliceabuse.com/

Attorneys D. Carl Lustig, III and Robert C. Gottlieb held a press conference on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 at 11:00 a.m. to announce the filing of a notice of claim against the village of Ocean Beach, Ocean Beach Police Department, and the police department’s Chief of Police and a number of police officers and to demand that the Suffolk county District Attorney investigate and prosecute the village of Ocean Beach police officers who criminally, brutally and viciously attacked a New York City businessman as he was leaving the village police station.

Samuel Gilberd and his wife, Kana Manglapus, took a four day vacation in Ocean Bay Park in late august. In the morning hours of August 28, 2005 after a night out, Mr. Gilberd was brought to the police station to receive a summons for littering. As he was leaving the police station, Mr. Gilberd closed the station house door in a way that offended the police officers. One of the police officers warned Mr. Gilberd “now you’ve really made the sergeant mad” and together with other police officers they violently, brutally and viciously attacked him. Mr. Gilberd was beaten and kicked into unconsciousness and left lying on the station house floor. This unprovoked attack by police officers was witnessed by others. Mr. Gilberd’s wife observed him lying unconscious when she arrived at the station house.

An independent witness to the assault and Mr. Gilberd’s wife frantically insisted that he be brought to a hospital. After a delay, police officers finally transported Mr. Gilberd to Southside hospital via police boat. A few hours later he was brought by private ambulance to St. Vincent’s hospital in New York City where he underwent an emergency operation to repair a ruptured bladder and numerous internal injuries. Mr. Gilberd remained in the hospital for ten days.
To cover up their criminal assault, police officers filed criminal charges seven days later against Mr. Gilberd falsely charging him with resisting arrest and disorderly conduct.
Mr. Gilberd, his wife together with his attorneys Robert C. Gottlieb and D. Carl Lustig, III were to appear at the press conference to answer questions.

WEBSITE: http://www.oceanbeachpoliceabuse.com/

ANYONE WITH INFORMATION ON OBPD ABUSE PLEASE CONTACT:
D. CARL LUSTIG, III (212)732-4992

44 Comments:

Blogger Katrina said...

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9/18/2005 12:49 PM  
Blogger mkolivar said...

Sam Gilberd is a business associate and a friend of mine. This incident clearly shows that police brutality can happen to anyone, to all walks of life and reach any city, town and neighborhood. I am disgusted with these police officers and will do anything within my power to help Sam and his lawyers with this case.

9/19/2005 7:50 AM  
Blogger mjmoody383 said...

Unfortunately, this sad incident does not come as a surprise to me or any of my friends who witnessed the irrational behavior of Ocean Beach police during a weekend in early August. While responding to a simple noise complaint on the island, one of the officers was visibly distressed, verbally abusive, and physically threatening in his actions; none of which were provoked in any form. When one of the witnessing individuals later asked the police chief how to report a complaint in regards to the officer's behavior, the chief responded,

"Did he physically hit you?"
"No"
"Did he point his gun at you?"
"No"
"Then you have no complaint."

At that point, the chief rudely excused himself from the conversation without any further comment. I hope this tragic matter draws serious attention to allowing emotionally unstable and mentally unqualified individuals to carry firearms and wield such power.

9/20/2005 11:51 AM  
Blogger Kelly Grecki said...

About 5 years ago, I too was attacked by the Ocean Beach police. I had walked out of a pizza with a soda cup, not knowing the "land of no" rules, a police officer approached me and tried to cuff me, I started to walk away, when 5 or 6 officers wrestled me to the ground, my brother jumped in once he saw what was happening and they locked both of us in a cell. I then had to appear at the "kangaroo Fire Island Courthouse" where of course we're all guilty without legal representation, but I was young then not knowing any better. I had to pay approx. $500.00 for tickets which were unjustified. Once I left the court house, the officer who was there at the time of my incident was sitting outside just smiling at me as I left. I felt completely helpless. I have never gone back there since. I will never go back there. The Ocean Beach Police Department thinks that they are above the law. I hope your client gets better, and I hope you sue their butts off. By the way I am a female and I was attacked by 5 or 6 male police officers.

9/20/2005 4:08 PM  
Blogger crschal@hotmail.com said...

Believe me this exactly happened to me and my friend in Oct. of '04 the injuries would have been worse if I did not stop the PO from choking my friend. When we went to press charges they turned around and arrested us. That same SGT. is the same officer that when I told him I wanted to press charges on the Monday after told me HE did the investigation and that he has witnesses saying we were the culperts and that we were getting charged with assault and harrassment. KARMA!!! Not to mention I hired a lawyer and we tried to have it moved out to Central Islip and

9/20/2005 4:38 PM  
Blogger crschal@hotmail.com said...

Sorry my last comments were cut off---
The funny thing is this exactly happened to me and my friend last Oct. 31, an off duty officer (Ocean Beach) was choking my friend @ Housers and I pulled him off of my friend (who was unconscious) the guy and his brother who also said in the bar was a cop, assaulted us again as we were walking out of the bar. Long story short, my friend who was
transported to the hospital by the Suffolk police with nasty black eye and literally choke marks on his neck (I still have the pictures) The next day we met with the Police Chief and the officer from the night before and the Police Chief assured me that the guy would be fired and that we would be able to press charges on Monday. SGT. answered my call on Monday, I explained to him about my one friend with the choke marks and the same guy as we were leaving the place broke a pool stick over my head and hit my other friend (who was scared to come foward) in the head aropund 8 times. Well Sgt. explained he has witnesses saying we caused all the problems and that PO was acting in the name of the law. Bottom line, we didn't have the money to carry this as far as I wanted and my one friend who still has concusion related problems is scared to come foward and we settled and we spent approx. 3000.00 a piece to get a disordly conduct w/ no record. CAN YOU KNOW SAY KARMA. I only wished our case would've prevented this poor guy getting seriously hurt.

9/20/2005 4:54 PM  
Blogger schalsies said...

TO MR. Citizen--

I do not know who you are or what institution you recieved your supposed "LAW" degree from but your comments are not only ridiculous but show how UNEDUCAATED and MORONIC you are. To say that this guy, "Sam Gilberd is a whining, pathetic individual who cannot face up to the consequences of his own actions" is inhumane. I do not know any of the parties related to this accident and the one thing I have learned "MR. Citizen" is that the OCEAN BEACH PD is with out a doubt corrupt and it is evident in not only in my case but also in this case. What GROWN ADULT would want something of this nature to happen to another adult and not to mention by the police department. RESTRAINT by the PD should have been just letting the guy walk away, instead they beat a man so bad he spend's ten days in the hospital-- And not mention Mr. Citizen-- WHY WOULDN'T they get medical attention right away-- HOW ABOUT A COVER UP BUDDY!!!! Shows how much you learned in your on-line law school. I know you say you are a SUMMER RESIDENT and that people like this ruin people's summer fun (agreed) but to insist that a person be BEAT by several police officers is insane and then charge the guy with several crimes--
BY the way the reason this PD operates like this is becasue people like you allow it--

KARMA-- THE SAME SGT. involved in this case is the same in mine!!!!

9/20/2005 6:18 PM  
Blogger Police Abuse Victim said...

As administrator of this blog I have removed blogs that were obviously written by either the DA and/or Police Department. Saying that Mr. Gilberd deserved what happened to him is indicative of the psychopathetic nature of blogger "citizen" which is a word only used by the police. We know who you really are, and look forward to prosecuting.

9/20/2005 8:38 PM  
Blogger SCBlur said...

Any OBPD goons reading this? I figured..I pity your family. I pity your wife and kids. While Mr. Gilberd will clearly will have the last laugh, your little legacy as lawman will crumble almost as fast as your pension. Overnite you will go from dead-beat cop to dead-beat dad. No more donuts. No more pretty gals in bikinis. No more ocean views. No more power trips. Those phones in prison don't accept 11-99 calls.

9/20/2005 10:36 PM  
Blogger RodneyCing said...

RodneyKing exists and this time he is a white nyc business man. No matter what this man did, he does not deserve such a beating. Restrain or put him in a cell if they thought he was distrspectful, but to beat him close to death is a abusive of power. Rodney King on of the east coast. Ocean police should be ashamed and held accountable. Power corrupts absolutely cops!

9/21/2005 3:15 AM  
Blogger Aimee said...

This whole situation is sad and pathetic. That law enforcement can be so corrupt is disheartening.

SG, I only hope that some of the people who've commented here contact your lawyers and testify at your trial.

Sounds like these cops need some serious disciplinary action -- like indefinite unpaid leave and some crazy-long jail time. Clearly, this has been going on way too long.

Best of luck to you with your trial.

9/21/2005 11:40 AM  
Blogger trashyourtown said...

I have read the paper on this problem and comming from a person that knows fire island, i think that you where in the bocce beach bar and you had a Fight with another person in the bar. thats how you got beat up, then he/she left and you threw the bottle at the person a bocce beach bouncer pulled you to the police station. you then got in a confrentation with the police, who i know very well. on your way out you expressed your anger by slamming the door in an impolite way. then they warned you about disrespecting them and you layed on the floor and as of now i find it sickining that you are lieing about this to gain mass amounts of money. your wife (50-50 chance she escaped from a mental facility) is acting as a witness for the money what is she going to do say no he was fine and lose $20,000,000. i really hope within these years that you are sewing ocean beach you lose and your bad deeds will catch up to you. I would also like to say that its people like you that make fire island a bad place Thanks for littering our beautiful town, go back to the city where if you act this childish they will shoot you.

9/21/2005 6:09 PM  
Blogger citizen said...

Dear Administrator/Police Abuse Victim:
Sorry to disappoint, but I am not, nor have I ever been, associated or employed by any law enforcement agency, D.A., etc.

Furthermore, I hope you realize how absurd you look to all posters and viewers by removing my comments. You have created a blog, ostensibily to protest a civil rights violation, yet you have no issue with censuring my right to free speech. In case you are unaware, free speech is also protected by the US Constitution. I think even your other bloggers who disagree with my views would support my right to post. Weren't blogs created to promote free speech to begin with? You are either a hypocrite or a coward, or both. I implore you to restore my first post for all to see to restore your credibility.

If you refuse, and you may, then my hunch is that you are one of the ambulance chasing, media pandering attorneys representing Mr. Gilberd in his frivolous lawsuit. What do you hope to accomplish. Most of the "evidence" and potential "witnesses" you are attempting to assemble here will provide you with little value. Probably inadmissible and, if you haven't noticed the common thread here, all of the commenters who have had issue with the OBPD have been intoxicated and engaged in unlawful behavior, as were their friends "who saw the whole thing." Hardly a big threat in court.

Again, I go back to my original premise. Sam Gilberd violated the law - he became intoxicated in public and threw a bottle. Then, instead of being a man and accepting his fine, he protested, verbally abused, and then physically assaulted police officers. The officers defended themselves, as is their right to do. Mr. Gilberd was injured. Well thats just too damn bad for him.

Mr. Gilberd, and others like him, descend on Ocean Beach in the Summer. They think that they can do whatever they please, that the rights of the local citizens to peacefully and safely enjoy their homes are a joke; that the local laws are a joke; and that the police are a joke. Well Mr. Gilberd, I guess the joke is on you now. Be a man, own up to your actions, and drop your frivolous lawsuit before it ultimately leads to more personal embarassment for you in open court.

9/21/2005 6:32 PM  
Blogger Todd W. Bollack said...

The simple bottom line to me is that there is NO crime that justifies this kind of behavior. It sounds to me like some of the "people" (I use the term lightly) posting flames on a blog, hiding behind anonymity, have forgotten that we have courtrooms, Judges and juries to decide punishment for people who break laws.

As I understand the charges (real and trumped-up), they range from littering to resisting arrest. I don't think anyone was charged for attempted homicide of a police officer, or suspicion of terrorism. AND EVEN THEN, the accused would have the right to a trial. No suspect is ever subject to be beaten into a hospital. I would say that the police are supposed to be the “good guys”, but I know better.

And to “citizen” specifically… Mr. Gilberd weighs 130 pounds soaking wet… just how many cops and how much force is needed to “defend themselves” when the deck is stacked in their favor, in the back rooms of their police department?

And for all of you so worried that tourists come to your wonderful city and terrorize the fine, upstanding families and peace officers there by littering and the slamming of doors, fear not! All this great press will keep those monsters (and their tourism dollars) away. When the money runs out, your little town will dry up, and then nobody will be there, not even you.

9/21/2005 7:36 PM  
Blogger SCBlur said...

Hey "Citizen"? Who died and made you chief? You seem to have it all figured out. Why don't you have another gander at the Code of Ethics on the OBPD website, dumbass. I reckon Mr. Gilberd will let a jury of his peers decide the merits of his case. Lets hope you're on the other side of the courtroom making closing arguments for these pigs. It takes a man to stand up to police corruption and I hope--for the benefit of the greater community--Gilberd will remain committed to the pursuit of justice. Somehow I doubt he's gonna take your advice and walk away.

9/21/2005 9:46 PM  
Blogger Fire Islander said...

Comments defending the Ocean Beach police, plainly made by people who are homeowners or others with an active interest in protecting the police, are quite understandable. The problem is that those making such comments know better. We all know that the Ocean Beach Police Dept. has a long and sordid history of harassment, intimidaton and use of excessive force, and has routinely charged individuals with disorderly conduct and resisting arrest to cover up their patently improper and bullying conduct. This pattern of illegal behavior has been an open secret on Ocean Beach for a long time. However, this time they picked on the wrong man and took things to an outrageous extreme. This time they cannot sweep it under the rug as they always have been able to do in the past. Mr. Gilberd's courageous willingness to fight back through legal means should be applauded and not condemned because, if his allegations are true, this reprehensible behavior by the police will be finally stopped and Ocean Beach will be better for it having been cleansed of this terrible stigma.

9/22/2005 7:20 AM  
Blogger Long Time Fire Islander said...

All of you amaze me. You hear or read one side of the story and come up with these ridiculous conclusions. Why is it that you'll accuse everyone before you can get the whole story. I live and work on fire Island year round and i see the coming and going of many people from all walks of life. Most of which are kind, good hearted, and hard working people, but with the thousands of people who visit each year, and the police have to interact with, there is always a few that ruin it for the rest of us. You come and visit and show no self control. You drink and do drugs until you are obliviated and show no respect for yourself or those around you. these Police Officers you speak about are professional in every sense of the word and always show self control. Yes there are times when a police officer has to get a little rough with someone, but i'm sure its with in the scope of the law. Someone in the blog compared it to the Rodney King beating. By far there is no comparison. You are crazy. Mr. crschal@hotmail.com, i was there the night you claim the police hit you with a pool stick. Why dont you tell the rest of the people in the blog how it was your drunken friend who started the whole thing and was beating up an older women. The officer did the right thing and protected her, until you came over and kicked the cop in the face even after he said he was a police officer. You people make me sick. if you all were able to show some self control i bet you would never have to deal with the police and until you grow up, i would prefer you stayed off my beautiful island. The police do a great job at protecting us and i'm sure when we get the whole story, it will show that it was Mr. Gilberd who was wrong.

9/22/2005 7:57 AM  
Blogger Todd W. Bollack said...

How is it someone is charged with a misdemeanor, and winds up spending 10 days in the hospital, requiring emergency surgery? You’re SURE that when these police officers “get a little rough” that they are “with in [sic] the scope of the law”? They are “professional in every sense of the word” and they ALWAYS “show self control”?

Ruptured bladder. For littering? [sarcasm]You’re right, he had it coming.[/sarcasm]

9/22/2005 8:17 AM  
Blogger schalsies said...

Mr. Long Time Fire Islander-

It will all come out in court, your boys didn't get away with it this time. Funny how the same people are involved in all the cases, not just mine BUDDY!! This is why they have gotten away with so much. A couple of questions to ask yourself MR. LONG TIME FIRE ISLANDER-- Why didn't the older lady come down and give a statement right away, wouldn't your boys encourage it!! And where were they when we were giving our statements???
Have a good day!!

9/22/2005 1:20 PM  
Blogger Todd W. Bollack said...

I’ll offer this little insight: Mr. Gilberd is not the kind of victim these “peace officers” are used to bullying and beating into fearful submission. When he raises his sights to a target, he doesn’t back down and doesn’t quit until he’s exceeded his goal.

This cowardly, anonymous online harassment is yet another thinly veiled attempt to get Mr. Gilberd (and other victims) to back down in fear. A spineless campaign to protect themselves (and those like them) from the law they are supposed to enforce. Well, it’s not going to work like that this time around.

To the likes of citizen: You’re a serial victimizer jarhead, feeling like your freedoms - your rights even - have been violated by those in power. Helpless to defend yourself in an environment where the rules apply differently to you than those you question, outnumbered, and crying abuse of power, you quotes the Constitution and cry Civil Liberties. How ironic, citizen.

Want the freedom to slander Mr. Gilberd further? You have a blog, use it. Don't count on a single person reading your unintelligible ravings, but you ARE free to speak.
And for trashyourtown: I don’t know where to begin, with your idiotic, uninformed personal attacks on Mr. Gilberd’s family, or your ridiculous, fictional abstraction of the events that landed a friend of mine in the hospital, so I’ll just keep it quick with a little advice: Try a line break and a spell-checker, and if you really want to improve yourself - and give your opinion a little credibility – take a remedial English class you embarrassment.

9/22/2005 1:55 PM  
Blogger Nick said...

I DONT EVEN BELIVE WHAT YOUR DOING
IF THESES COPS DID DO ANYTHING TO YOU IT WAS TO LITTLE. FOR ALL YOU BRAIN WASHED PEOPLE WHO AGREE WITH THIS LOSER MAYBE IF YOU ACUALLY SAW WHAT HAPPEND OR LIVED ON FIRE ISLAND YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT THIS GUY IS A MORON AND IS UNBELIVABLY STUPID FOR MAKING THIS BLOG. WHATS THE MATTER SAM YOU WANT MORE THEN JUST YOUR FAMILY TO FEEL SORRY FOR YOU,SO YOU MAKE THIS BLOG? HOW DARE YOU GO TO FIRE ISLAND AND START FIGHTS. FIREISLAND WOULD BE ALOT BETTER WITHOUT YOU RETARDS COMING FROM THE CITY TO GET DRUNK TRASH THE TOWN THEN GO HOME. IM GOING TO COME TO YOUR HOUSE AND PEE ALL OVER YOUR DOOR OR GET DRUNK AND THROW FIRE CRACKERS AT PEOPLE.
OH AND ANOTHER THING IM NOT A DA OR HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH FIREISLAND AUTHORITY. I AM A YEAR ROUND HOME OWNER THATS ALL.
BUT A GOOD THING CAME OUT OF THIS I DOUBT ANYMORE OF YOU STUPID CITY PEOPLE WILL COME BACK TO FIREISLAND AND GET DRUNK OR THROW STUFF. DO NOT MAKE A BLOG IF YOU WILL NOT ALLOW PEOPLE OF ALL OPINIONS TO POST. YOU DELETE POSTS THAT MIGHT CHANGE PEOPLES MIND ABOUT YOU AND YOUR MENTALLY ILL WIFE. I COULD SAY ALOT MORE THINGS ABOUT YOU BUT THIS AS RUDE AS I WILL BE ON A BLOG. CALL ME AND ILL TELL YOU WHAT I REALLY THINK OF YOU OK?

I RATHER YOU NOT DELETE THIS BUT IF YOU DO YOU WILL ONLY BE PROVING ME POINT MORE AND MORE.

9/22/2005 6:25 PM  
Blogger Nick said...

HA HA ITS KIND OF FUNNY YOU PEOPLE ARE LIKE CHILDREN FIGHTING OVER THIS, JUST READING ALL OF YOU ARGUE MAKES ME LAUGH.

9/22/2005 6:57 PM  
Blogger SCBlur said...

Umm, Nick, why don't you take your meds then come back when you're feeling better....speaking of mentally ill.

9/22/2005 7:25 PM  
Blogger OB Regular said...

Yeah Nick, it is rather obvious that you are neither a DA nor a Police Officer nor an Attorney for that matter. Your crazed rant speaks for itself.

9/22/2005 7:45 PM  
Blogger BeenThere said...

I have comments ,First a pointer.
I ran a website out of desperation ( before the blog craze). I got scammed and was left with no legal recourse. The site attracted enough attention to my cause that eventually the Feds slapped a multiple count indicment on this fella .
1. You MUST not delete any comments. POST THEM ALL . They will give you the credibility. No matter how hatefull they are.
2. Beware of anyoneposing as a friend. This was a tactic that said fella tried at least 3 times.
Verify anyone you talk to . These people have ALLOT to lose now and will resort to almost anything. Remember ... These people BEAT YOU LIKE A DOG. Do not put anything past them.

I have lived here long enough to have experienced the rampant coruption that exists here on Fire Island.
It is a wonderfull place , but make no mistake , 90% of the year round inhabitants are uneducated inbread hillbillies.
There is a rampant mafia among the construction and carting trades here. The OBPD is a great example of nepotism and institutionalised corruption.
To Mr. Cop :
Do you remember me ? I am certain you do . You were IN UNIFORM with your radio, drinking wine at a restaurant- YOU WERE ON DUTY . Remember how you put the menu between your glass and me when I saw you ?
I would testify against you in a second.
There Is consolation in knowing that this blog will eventually attract attention .. and it is not out of the realm of possibilities that one will be able to see a procession of grown men and women being led out in handcuffs sobbing at the realisation of their fate.
This place is THAT CORRUPT !
The truth ALWAYS prevails. An honest person will always come out victorious .

9/22/2005 8:13 PM  
Blogger Eric Estrada said...

there are three types of people that sign up to be cops

1 do gooders that want to make a difference. after a year or so of exposure to the rest of the pigs they are corrupted

2 the kid in high school who got teased and beat up and now he thinks because he is a cop he can abuse others

3 jock cocksuckers with power tripping ego issues

i laugh when i think of how unpopular the sentinments behind these pig's comments are and i also laugh when i think of how popular these douchebags will be in prison

9/23/2005 11:46 AM  
Blogger Todd W. Bollack said...

From the Ocean Beach PD's homepage:

The goal of the Ocean Beach Police Department is to maintain a safe and secure environment for everyone that visits Ocean Beach

From another page:

Law Enforcement Code of Ethics

As a law enforcement officer, my fundamental duty is to serve the community; to safeguard lives and property; to protect the innocent against deception, the weak against oppression or intimidation and the peaceful against violence or disorder; and to respect the constitutional rights of all to liberty, equality and justice.

I will keep my private life unsullied as an example to all and will behave in a manner that does not bring discredit to me or my agency. I will maintain courageous and calm in the face of danger, scorn or ridicule; develop self-restraint; and be constantly mindful of the welfare of others. Honest in thought and deed both in my personal and official life, I will be exemplary in obeying the law and the regulations of my department. Whatever I see or hear of a confidential nature or that is confided to me in my official capacity will be kept ever secret unless revelation is necessary in the performance of my duty.

I will never act officiously or permit personal feelings, prejudices, political beliefs, aspirations, animosities or friendships to influence my decisions. With no compromise for crime and with relentless prosecution of criminals, I will enforce the law courteously and appropriately without fear or favor, malice or ill will, never employing unnecessary force or violence and never accepting gratuities.

I recognize the badge of my office as a symbol of public faith, and I accept it as a public trust to be held so long as I am true to the ethics of police service. I will never engage in acts of corruption or bribery, nor will I condone such acts by other police officers. I will cooperate with all legally authorized agencies and their representatives in the pursuit of justice.

I know that I alone am responsible for my own standard of professional performance and will take every reasonable opportunity to enhance and improve my level of knowledge and competence

I will constantly strive to achieve these objectives and ideals, dedicating myself before God to my chosen profession...law enforcement.

9/23/2005 2:26 PM  
Blogger stephen feraca said...

I see whomever the moderator is of this forum,deleted my last post.............just like every fair impartial public forum should(LOL).........You have NO SHOT my friend with this frivilous ,waste of time circus type (ala Michael Jackson pre-trail charades)law suit

Stephen Feraca

9/23/2005 4:19 PM  
Blogger stephen feraca said...

IT seems only the favorable posts to this MORONIC site "stay" posted,as my first detailed post has gone Poof into cyberspace!!!

Stephen Feraca

9/23/2005 4:28 PM  
Blogger OB Regular said...

Stephen

Your comments are still where you posted them. Under the other post "Ocean Beach Police Brutality and Abuse"

http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=16870839&postID=112735009937487331

By the way Extortion is defined as:

"A criminal offense, which occurs when a person obtains money, behaviour, or other goods and/or services from another by wrongfully threatening or inflicting harm to his person, reputation, or property. Euphemistically, refraining from doing harm is sometimes called protection."

It seems to me that “Extortion” is not having one's bladder ruptured (in addition other internal injuries) by those who should be "protecting" the public.

9/24/2005 12:27 AM  
Blogger LongEastEatery said...

Its difficult to imagine that the lack of intelligence presented in these reponses are real. Instead they seem to be clear over emotional rantings of people who, in one way or another, are involved in and with this case.

Any citizen of our democratic society would argue in favor of the protection of civil liberties, not to mention the sanctity of our ideals. We are supposed to dislike corruption and applaud the instigation of checks and balances. What is your motivation?

While the details of Sam Gilberd's story are currently allegations and have not yet been determined by a court of law as fact, one could argue that the deep hatred and emotional backlash displayed here in this blog is substantial proff in his favor.

Normally, people only lash out like this as a result of a defense mechanism. Many of you seem scared.

Those of you who appear angry and desperate to disparage Sam Gilberd are obviously concerned that he has a point. Otherwise you would dismiss his allegations without any fear or concern. Surely you wouldnt waste your time like this?

Personally, as a lifetime resident of Long Island, I am appaled at the behavior of police officers who I employ with my tax dollars. I plan on writting letters to my mayor, congress person and district attorney. This is unacceptable behavior, we should make it known that we are not in favor of police corruption or brutality.

Only by working within our system can we retain the dignity that was denied to Mr. Gilberd and prevent it from happening to someone else.

9/24/2005 10:02 AM  
Blogger ee101 said...

i would like to say that my brother was the bouncer at the bar mr. gilberd was at on the night in question. it is an ABSOLUTE fact that mr. gilbert was indeed VERY disorderly. i am a summer resident of ocean beach for the past four years and close with many locals who live their, and have for many years. i also have gotten to know the police force in ocean beach in both conflictive
and passive situations. i have hosted many parties where the police had to be called; and i can tell you we have put those men through hell and never had anyone arrested from one of my parties, even in their drunkest of states was ever, ever assaulted. in four years of drunkin parties, all summer long. they must have arrested 20 or more people, one of which poured a beer on the head on one of the officers standing under the balcony of our house, proceeded to curse out the officers who apprehended him; and still no assualt. now there is no excuse for ruptured bladders and such, but there is an little distortion in the facts being printed by mr. gilberd and his people. my brother has worked the door at the local bar mr. gilberd was at that night for two summers and a number of the people who live with me work their as well. that night is a night my brother remembers well because this was the only incident in the months of july and august where somone was so WASTED, to be blunt about it, where he had to litterealy throw him out of the bar. mr. gilberts version of littering, is a little more involved than he leads people to believe. if u define littering as a man standing at a bar and lauching a glass 20 feet into the street, almost whacking a guy in the head as littering, then yes mr. gilbert littered. now i know assault is wrong im not dumb, but if anyone understands ocean beach we locals, who work there, own busniesses, and interact with the town every day we know you august assholes are the rowdiest and most obnoxious group of tourests ever. the biggest drama for the party scene is august and that is just the pattern i have seen over the past four years. and those who live here all year round live by it. i hope mr. gilberd feels better and his ailments heal well, but i do hope he will take a moment to understand where he faltered and exercise a little more restraint whe he goes out for a night of drinking. he can say what he wants, but the facts are the facts and th police were wrong, but he must have done something much worse than he is letting on. if he defines littering as recklessly hurling a glass into the street, from inside the bar, then one can only wonder how he defines his action in the station against what actually happened. get better mr. gilbeerd and what ever action you take is your busniess, but i will say this, to everyone, it is easy to expand the truth and try to ruin the careers of these men who deal with bull all summer long and they to get assaulted, there are men on that force that have served on the NYPD for many years and they are good men and they love the people they protect. they are not above sitting at the bar for a drink with us kids who have caused them hell for years, my friend even hung out with the chief's son. those who commited the assault were wrong for the extent of their actions, but like mr. gilberd they too should have exercised restraint. mr gilberd probably deserved to get smacked around a little, but not beat up. anyway my long winded blog is closing to the delight of you gilberd advocates, but all i hope is the town i spend my entire summer at year, after year does not suffer for mr. gillards "littering" incident.

10/05/2005 3:56 PM  
Blogger Bob said...

Well ee101. You and and all of your fire islanders should be ashamed of yourselves! You claim that your brother was the bouncer and Mr. Gilberd was beligerent. That bar was negligent for continuing to serve him alcohol, your brother was negligent, and all residents of fire island for tolerating with the bars for allowing people to get so intoxicated. If what Mr. Gilberd was so bad, why was he only given a ticket for littering? No public intoxication? Hmmmm.... very odd. Oh, and I would hate to think that your summer drunks fest may come to an end because someone littered. Are you kidding me? It will end because of police brutality not because of littering you moron. Mr. Gilberd didn't pour a beer on the cop's head like your friends did. I would have to say you drunk parties were far greater than some guy throwing a beer bottle out a bar window. Mr. Gilberd was wrong and he got a ticket for it. He should have paid the price with that. The police took things too far for whatever reason, I can't say, because I wasn't there. No one should ever be beaten so badly that they spend over a week in the hospital week severe trauma wounds. I pity the residents of fire island for their lack of self respect. I pity the Police officers around the world who do good but are over showed by the few who over step their bounds. Bottom line Mr. Gilberd was out of line and the police should have dealt with it in a professional manner, but they didn't. They became savages that could have taken a life, instead they caused a life long trauma that Mr. Gilberd will endure for the rest of his. Police brutality is wrong- Case closed! ee101 I guess it is ok for you to get drunk and stupid because you do it every summer for 4 years, but it is not ok for Mr. Gilberd because he is just visiting- you make great sense ee101 and the rest of Fire Island residents'.

10/06/2005 9:15 AM  
Blogger OB Regular said...

From: http://usinfo.state.gov/usa/infousa/facts/funddocs/billeng.htm

This is our Bill of Rights, which to those of you unfamiliar, were the first 10 amendments to our Constitution.

When the Constitution was adopted there were a number of states that were concerned that abuses and misuse of power were a real issue, and as a way of extending public confidence proposed 10 Amendments.

I think the 8th Amendment is particularly relevant here:

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

http://www.liberator.net/articles/firstamend.html says:

There are those who would like to relinquish our Constitutional rights without much thought based on the political climate of the moment, misinformation or a lack of history concerning certain issues.


The Ocean Beach PD has long held their own private kingdom to rule as they wanted without any fear of true justice. It has been an open secret for years. It is time for this to end. God Willing, Mr. Gilberd will expose them as the true criminals that they are.

I, for one, am not willing to give up my Constitutional rights to a bunch of washed-up keystone cops who certainly didn't get promoted to this kangaroo post in Ocean Beach with a .14 mile jurisdiction.

10/06/2005 12:04 PM  
Blogger Todd W. Bollack said...

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

- Benjamin Franklin

This quote is for all those who promote beatings for misdemeanors. (It also applies to the new Police State imposed in so many ways since 9-11, but that's an argument for another blog.) I assure you, that these people that accuse Mr. Gilberd ("Rape!? Look at that short skirt, she was askin' for it.") would cry loudest the minute someone encroached on THEIR rights.

10/06/2005 12:29 PM  
Blogger ee101 said...

hello bob well i must say you are an angry fellow. me and my little drunkfest have worked our butts off at 3 damn jobs out there for four summers (i have nothing to be ashamed of) so u need to stop ur sillyness. and how dare you call me a moron you ignorant little man (u need a life). and for your information the bar did not continue to serve him, he was thrown out, by my brother (and never insult him again, okay buddy) after his little 'littering' incident (launching a pint glass of of a bar into a street, almost hitting someone i the head) in case you forgot to read the whole blog. i never condoned putting the man in the hospital i simply pointed out his lack of honesty with the actual events. and my summers will continue on as they have regardless of this incident thank you very much. the point of my blog was to give my comment on the situation if u read the whole blog, and i dont think you did (or u just saw what u wanted to see) u would know i wished mr gilberd a speedy recovery and what ever action he had to take was his busniess. so back off man ur hostility is not needed. it is hostility that got mr gilberd into this mess in the first place. on the part of both parties. and whether or not u choose to believe it the facts are the facts. u have delved into ur arsenal of insults and slander for no reason honey. save it for someone who is a mean person. i scolded the officers who commited the crime and praised those who i know whould never do such a thing. because their careers could be on the line. you know nothing about me BOB i am an educated, hard working, young lady; who prides herself in supporting a lifestyle most could only dream of. and i have a problem when someone has a bad encounter and a slew of people like you jump on a band wagon. ONCE AGAIN (SINCE U MISSED IT THE FIRST TIME) I WILL WISH A SPEEDY RECOVERY AND NICE LIFE TO MR GILBERD; I ONLY HOPE HE LEARNED A LESSON FROM ALL OF THIS. BE EASY ON THE BOOZE MAN. AND JUST REMEMBER TO BE HONEST WITH YOURELF. DO WHAT U HAVE TO DO BUT BE HONEST AND ONCE AGAIN TO THOSE INVOLVED SHAME, NEXT TIME R E S T R A I N T GENTLEMEN, AND TO THOSE WHO HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT I WILL CONTINUE TO DEFEND THEM BC THEY ARE GOOD COPS AND THEY KEEP MY STREETS FREE OF DANGEROUS DRUNKS. AND TO U BOB, GO KISS OFF. U NEED HELP MY MAN. DO SOME REASERCH NEXT TIME (OR READ THE WHOLE BLOG) AND SAVE THE INSULTS FOR KIDERGARDEN. WE CAN COMMUNICATE AND DEBATE AS ADULTS, NOT MIDDLE SCHOOLERS. WE DONT HAVE TO AGREE I DONT CARE IF U AGREE WITH ME JUST DO NOT DISRESPECT AND INSULT ME.

10/13/2005 6:03 PM  
Blogger Bob said...

ee101, you are an immature yound woman who chooses to wait tables all summer while hooking up with random guys. Your brother, has aspired to be nothing more than a brainless bouncer. Obviously the apples don't fall far from the tree! You are a selfish girl. This incident is about corrupt cops, not about whether or not all police are good or bad, just the few involved in this incident- you fail to recognize that. I appreciate the police and the sacrifices they have to make everyday. There were a few they acted inappropriately and they we be delt with in the court of law. You tell me not to disrespect you or insult you, but that is all you are doing to me. Once again, is it only ok for you but no one else? The incident is not about throwing a glass out the window and ALMOST hitting someone. It is about a few police officers who took things too far. Mr. Gilberd just happen to be the victim. Who knows, it could have happened to you... next summer! Best of luck to you ee101, oh, and I'm sure your scolding was very frightening!

10/14/2005 7:56 AM  
Blogger ee101 said...

there you go again bob in fact you are so keen on the law, maybe you would recognize slander when you WRITE it. my personal life is none of your busniess and i have a long time boyfriend thank you. if i am an immature young woman who chooses to waite tables (which is not one of my jobs by the way) then what ever you say bob. you don't know me and you don't know my brother and you sure as hell do not know what you are talking about. a summer job is a way to earn money for the rest of the year bob, not a life time goal. but you education level does not seem to understand that. and if telling the story of what happened that night is too much for you to handle then that is your problem, no one else who is a supporter of mr gilberd is attacking me on a personal level (or at all), because i did not do that to anyone else. i will not retract one word of what i have said nor do i expect you to. but really, do not insult me and my family only low lives allow themselves to stoop to such levels. i am open to critisizm (i posted a public blog after all), but not direct insults mr bob. mr gilberd is taking all of this internet conversation quite well because he understands he has made himself public and that opens you to be critisized. but you seem to like to attack anyone with a story you don't like or an opinion you dont agree with. well too bad. does what you say upset me; yeah a little, but i take comfort in knowing it is all ignorant slander to serve the purpouse of making you feel better. i am sure you response will be no more mature than your last one but hey i could choose to stop egging you on, but why. if you can call me a slut and and a no brain (to sum your respose up in a nut shell) then i can piss you off a little too right bob.

10/14/2005 8:16 PM  
Blogger Fire Islander said...

The comments on this blog defending the Ocean Beach Police Department would be silly were it not for the seriousness of the police misconduct and the consequences to Mr. Gilberd who, as I understand it, was admitted to the hospital in critical condition after the beating by the police. Moreover, they conspicuously ignor the fact that it is well known that the OB police are brutal bullies and engage in such tactics on a regular basis and then cover them up by charging the victims with resisting arrest or assault and then, in court, pleading them down to disorderly conduct charges, with bogus admissions, in order to coerce their silence. I live here. I know! And it offends me and many other right thinking residents. It is a terrible thing to live in fear of bad people, and worse when the bad people are wearing badges. We are sick of it and sick of the soiled reputation our beloved village has because of it.
I hope Mr. Gilberd's civil lawsuit rids us of this menace. It may cost us by whatever judgement he receives from a jury, however, that appears to be the only way to end this horrible situation. And I hope that there is an official, independant investigation of this matter and the past conduct of the OB Police Department. Enough is enough and it is time to end this terrible embarassment!

10/15/2005 7:54 AM  
Blogger Todd W. Bollack said...

...It may cost us by whatever judgement he receives from a jury, however, that appears to be the only way to end this horrible situation. And I hope that there is an official, independant investigation of this matter and the past conduct of the OB Police Department...

This is the part that scares me the most. Simply paying the victim a large sum of (taxpayer's) money doesn't solve the problem. Effectively, it coerces their silence, much like the trumped up charges.

These same individuals, WITHOUT badges and buddies to hide behind, would be put through the system they are supposed to be a part of.

They would be arrested, HELD OVERNIGHT (which has already NOT happened), arraigned on charges of assault in front of a Judge, released ON BOND, tried in court, and likely found guilty - based on the facts - and sentenced to a brief incarceration and some probation.

This is the same system that is good enough for the citizens they police, so why not put them through it? What changes if there's a payoff? What lessons do these criminals learn if the taxpayers iron it all out for them with money? If I put someone in the hospital, nobody is going to pay them off for me, I'm going to face the inside of a jail, and the other criminals in there.

This deserves more than just a no-pay vacation slap on the wrist and a settlement. This needs to be handled fairly, as if the criminals were any other citizens.

10/19/2005 10:40 AM  
Blogger Hillbillyhater said...

Cheif Paradiso Busted Working While on "Medical Leave"

1/23/2006 2:26 PM  
Blogger Hillbillyhater said...

Want to read about yet MORE corruption on this godforsaken island ?
http://fireislandcrime.blogspot.com
Post and fight the institutionalsed corruption that is killing this great place,.
End the "Birthright" end the "Entitlement"

1/23/2006 2:29 PM  
Blogger Fire Island not in America said...

This place is fuckin crazy. The government should take it over, boot the residents, bulldoze the corrupt businesses, and turn the houses into state run bed and breakfasts.

4/29/2007 5:56 AM  
Blogger The Equalizer said...

Hi. I read your tragic story of Police Abuse of Power. Let me first say that I send you the best of regards. Secondly, I have had my fair share of dealings with crooked and corrupt Cops. I have had my name lied on through falsified Police reports, arrested on ficticious charges, and as well have had my name perjured against by the same Cop. This Cop being one pathetic lying Dan Aguilera in Portland Maine. I have decided to make it my life pursuit now to expose corrupt, crooked pigs for what they really are in life. I hope you will visit my Blog page and share and interact with those who might have similar stories. Best wishes to you and yours. Peace.

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